See? What did I tell you? I knew this posting would kick up some dust at QRZ.com.
VE9MP posted our famous “Half-Shirt guy” photo on the thread, and posted a link to Hamsexy. Of course, one of the QRZ mods (This time Glen K9STH one of the more anal mods) used the totally lame excuse of “Copyright infringement” to delete the entire message. Here’s what he wrote:
A certain person just used the thread to make a minor attack on QRZ.com. The last post was on 14 January 2005 until the thread was brought back from the dead on 30 October.
I also wonder about the copyright on the photograph that was posted. Also, there is the “model release” that must be signed by the person in the photograph. Therefore, I am going to have to delete the photograph.”
Glen Glen Glen…. Come on, man! If you’re gonna edit messages, at least have the brass to admit why you’re doing it! I can’t even begin to describe how lame and obvious that is.
Just say “We don’t allow links to Hamsexy, so I’m deleting it”. Don’t start on some bullshit nonesense about model releases or copyright. It’s our photo, we own the rights to it, and we’ve got permission. Anyone can use it anyway they want.
And Glen – calling this post an “attack” on QRZ just reenforces what utter FEAR you guys have for Hamsexy. I should be shaking my head in utter disbelief, but in fact I’m flattered. I mean, you guys are QRZ… you guys are “it” when it comes to ham radio websites. You are Goliath and we are some dirt stuck on David’s sandal. We aren’t even in the same UNIVERSE when it comes to popularity, hits, etc. We don’t even have any ads on our site. The fact QRZ is afraid of us just goes to show how completely out of touch Glen and the rest of the QRZ mods are. QRZ fearing Hamsexy is like Microsoft fearing some guy coding 3rd party printer drivers in Sri Lanka.
As the owner of the photo, I grant free use and distrubution of the photo.
Photo was taken at Dayton Ohio Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 4:15pm.
Original file name is DSC04952.JPG
Original file size is 2.14MB
Original file resolution is 2560×1920
If management wishes for a screen shot of above information etc, I will post a link here.
Have at it boys!
Satire keeps the hobby in check and is healthy once in awhile.
As a professional photographer, there is nothing illegal or restricted in this photo. It was taken in public domain and not a hidden or otherwise covert way. In addition, no cash/profit or commerical use is implied.
I didn’t know the half shirt guy was actually a “Model”
Cool. That’s the thread I started back in January when this site got hacked. Good to see someone resurrected my thread and put it at the top of the list again.
Steve, KC5SAS
hold the presses! It looks as if we’ve got a spy here at hamsexy!!
from QRZ.
“BTW, this was an “inside job” someone who is still a member” ka5piu
the rest of his post doesn’t make any sense.
I kinda like Glen. He was smart enough to understand Kaiser Kat. That is why I was very surprised to get banninated over it.
KA5PIU is Cowthief
Hahahaahahaha…
I’m banned yet I’m still stirring shit at QRZ… I love it!
That’s just plain funny.
Now, when a news crew is shooting footage for the 11 o’clock news – do they need each of the 1,000 people’s permission before they can show it on TV? I don’t thinks so. I bet you when hamvention’s site comes up – purchasing a ticket to the show waves your rights to claim any sort of special treatment for your photo or other information that can be openly seen and captured in a public setting.
So….. dumbasses… grow up.
To sum up my feelings on this one:
They can kiss my big white acadian ass.
He was proven wrong on the copyright thing, then he goes on about a model release.
BS Class=sarcasm>
How could this happen on such a fine forum such as QRZ
I’m shocked 😮
Did you get banned from your ‘attack’?
Correct you are!
Damnit
“Did you get banned from your ‘attack’? ”
No, surpringly not.
Yeah, not coming out and saying they don’t like Hamsexy would have been fine. I’ll never understand this seemingly common ham mentality of actually avoiding what you really want to say when something like this comes around. Christ.
welcome back guy
Yeah, welcome back IVT! Nice to see you around again.
Half Shirt Guy Just signed with the William Morris Agency! I see a guest spot of CSI as “Guy in Half Shirt at crime scene”!
Just to help with the copyright issues. I’ve worked as a photographer since 1975, in all areas from news, to weddings, to commercial, advertising, and anything else that may come up. When you take a photo, you–at that very instant–become the copyright owner of that photo. A photo used for news or editorial purposes needs NO MODEL RELEASE. Period. You think the newspaper has all the firemen on scene sign a form before they go to press when the mall burns down? Just remember–news or editorial–NO release is necessary. Illustrating a post or article on Hamsexy, QRZ, or anyplace else is editorial usage. Now, of course, remember, if you didn’t TAKE the photo, or secure rights for it’s use from the person who took it, THEN you have issues, but with the photographer or owner of the photo, not the people IN the photo. Interesting twist, however. You cannot use a photo for a commercial use, such as advertising illustration, selling them printed on mugs, calendars, etc without a proper release….BUT you CAN sell PRINTS of the photos you own, that were taken for news and editorial purposes to private parties. There are thousands of newspapers around the country who now supplement their income by offering prints of photos that were published in their papers. So, if you take a photo of a silly person at a Hamvention, you can use it to illustrate your web, or print, or televised et. al. reporting of the event, AND you can sell prints of the photo to anyone, at whatever price you would like to charge. When this first started happening I was flabbergasted as well, but a check with several lawyers who specialize in this area have confirmed it for me a few years ago. So, for all the blah blah blah about model releases, etc…as long as you using the photo for editorial purposes, and either own the copyright (which you do if you took the photo) or have permission (license) from the copyright owner, you’re A-OK.
word. just stopping by. nice to see that things on here are crazier than ever.
> but a check with several lawyers who specialize in this area…
As a lawyer schooled in this area, I can confirm most of what was said.
As long as you’re not using half-shirt guy directly in an ad (“Hey, are you trying to lose weight? Wanna look as sexy as this in a half-shirt?…), you’re good to go.
Beyond that, you’re fine. Want to make a coffee table book of half-shirt guys? Put him on the cover, if you own the copyright.
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